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{- Per EastMarple1 on HEIRtagger:"Hunch - believe this to be a pure fanciful image of Kemp Town as the architecture there is nothing like this. Instead it is Regency in style with many bow fronted buildings"

per HEIRteam on HEIRtagger: "We agree that the label may be incorrect, as the buildings look more like those now found along Oriental Place, well west of Kemp Town. However, as this is an old hand coloured image, it is possible that these buildings were destroyed in World War 2 - see the bomb damage map at http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/yesterdays/brightonandhoveatwar/bombmap/."

later email correspondence with Regency Society: "Dear Dr Kinory

Roger Hinton kindly emailed your query to me. What a lovely image but I have looked carefully at it and compared it with older images and photographs of Kemp Town and I am not convinced that it is. If you look at the excellent modern photos on the web site of the Kemp Society – both Arundel and Chichester Terraces, you will see that their designs are not like yours. They are the most likely p;possibilities because they are both straight as is the terrace in your image. Sussex Squ at the top end as a palace front too but again not alike, nor are its two side wings.
http://www.kemptownestatehistories.com/chichester-terrace

Just to explain why Roger sent your query to me – see attached.

To me it looks very like sections of Belgravia – again palace front and parts of which may have once had gardens of that style.

If I can help further – or the Society can be of further help – e.g. more queries please do get in touch with either Roger or me. Always good because they encourage thinking about a place in a new way.

Vanessa Minns – see the web site above is always a good contact re Kemp Town – and the source of the pictures on the link. I also checked earlier images on the collections section of Brighton and Hove Museum.

Best Wishes

Sue
Dr Sue Berry FSA."

"Dear Dr Kinory

Just showed it to my husband Pat, who helps me with research and he suggested – also what about the terraces in Regents Park – where there are beds. Thinking Nash here.

SB"

"Dear Janice

We are still trying to track down some specific information about the image that you have enquired about.

The nearest thing to it in Brighton in terms of appearance is probably Arundel terrace which is at the east end of the seafront. For purposes of comparison you might like to look at the link below which shows Arundel Terrace as it was around 1910 and the attached image which shows it as it is today (from Google Street-view). You’ll see that while the style of architecture is similar to your image, the detail differs significantly.

I’m still waiting for replies from a couple of other contacts. I’ll let you know if they come up with anything.

Best wishes

Roger Hinton
Regency Society

Link: http://www.brightonmuseums-collections.org.uk/collections/getrecord/BTNRP_HA902731"

"Dear Janice

As promised, here is the minority view. He suggest that the Kemp Town Society might be able to help – www.kemptown-society.org.uk

Regards

Roger

From: Robert Edwards [mailto:robert.edwards07@btinternet.com]
Sent: 16 January 2017 10:27
To: Roger Hinton
Cc: selma-montford@pobox.com
Subject: Re: Attached Image


Roger

It can only be Arundel Terrace. Outlines and details of too many of the buildings do correspond to those in Arundel Terrace, which are very distinct from any of the neighbouring or comparable terraces.

Since the picture was taken, something radical has been done to a prominent building in the forefront, removing the angular pillar formation in the portico; but most other alterations have been of a less peculiar nature, and the more serious changes, as opposed to the silly ones, are well documented in the literature. I've looked closely at numbers 9 to 11 and cannot tell which is that particular building in the picture. (I was staring along the buildings in the dark and damp yesterday evening and didn't have the picture with me.) I know a few people who live in the terrace, but they are at the western end.

Another confusing point in the picture is where the terrace ends and the gap of the gardens opens, ahead of Chichester Terrace: in the picture somehow the gap is compressed by the obtuse angle of the view and perhaps by the mechanics or development in the photographic method or some other technical or intervening issue.

I wonder if the institute project have asked Kemp Town Society? I think Jill would be interested to hear from them and would be well placed to get good info from colleagues. But I can promise they'll confirm it's Arundel.

Robert


On 15 Jan 2017, at 15:29, Roger Hinton wrote:


Dear Selma and Robert

Please see the enquiry below and the attached image to which it relates. It looks rather like Arundel Terrace in terms of style but when you compare the two it is clearly not. Can you throw any light on either the image or the buildings it shows?

Thanks
Roger"

"Dear Janice

Another day and another bit of evidence comes to light. The attached image
was drawn to my attention by my wife: she included it in "Sketches of
Brighton" a translation she published recently of a French Nobleman's memoir
of a visit in 1827. It shows part of Arundel Terrace on the right and
suggests that the terrace has undergone quite a few changes as Robert
Edwards mentioned; so maybe your image is correctly labelled as Kemp Town.

Regards
Roger"

per boarshill on HEIRtagger: "I would be interested to know if the Kemp Town Society has been able to offer any help with this image. The architectural pattern - six columns close to the camera, with four columns under a pediment further back, and then four more columns beyond that - is quite distinctive. It should not be too hard to match from old photos, even if it no longer exists." -}